It’s been a few weeks since the April 3 police raid on a Mormon breakaway sect that had a Texas ranch (called Yearning for Zion) where several families lived and worked in societal seclusion. They were also practicing polygamy and pubescent marriage – both of which are Biblical (in historicity) and fit with these people’s strict religious adherence.
After all the blah-blah the mainstream media windbags have gassed out, I’m left pondering this whole thing. I remember the Waco Massacre and how our government burned alive 76 people, including 21 children and two pregnant women. Now, if you think I’m going to condone any of those Waco nuts, or any of the recent polygamy and child-marriage, you can rest easy – I’m not. However, bigger issues and ethical dilemmas arise.
For instance, what exactly justifies the government removing confiscating kidnapping over 400 children based on one anonymous call from a purported young girl at this ranch? I mean, shouldn’t they first investigate, find this girl, and THEN legally deal with HER parents only (at least initially)? Can you imagine if someone in your church had abused their children, and because of it all the children in your church – including YOUR children – were taken away by the government and prepped for foster care? Where’s the due process?
Another thing that bugs me is that this would NEVER have happened if it were a Muslim ranch… not in today’s politically correct mire where politicians are stumbling over each other to kiss any large potential voting block’s collective arse.
Perhaps the biggest incongruity I struggle with here is the illogical, irrational, and imbalanced “shock” and “outrage”. I’m talking about “outrage” over a 50-yr-old man marrying a 14-yr-old girl – yet if a 50-yr-old man had instead carved out the girl’s brain at birth, then that’s okay. I’m talking about “shock” that a man would have two wives, but two gay men existing as co-husbands is okay. Polygamy is just an organized and religious “marriage” version of what’s already going on in our inner-cities in a very non-marriage and non-religious context.
Quite frankly, America’s (and Britain’s) inner-cities have sorta become an urban underage-illegitimacy farm where poorly-raised girls of single mothers copulate with multiple poorly-raised boys of single mothers and produce multiple babies by multiple fathers (that we foot the bill for, of course). These children would be better off with polygamist parentssss who are more stable, more nurturing, and wait at least until puberty to whore out wed their daughters… yet it’s the Texas ranch folks who got their kids taken away. [Two great books to read more about inner-city "nurturing" and illegitimacy are Freakonomics by Steven Levitt, and Marriage and Caste In America by Kay Hymowitz]
So I’m troubled a bit. I’m troubled that we’re on a slippery slope and nobody cares enough about some pioneer-dress wearing simple folk to at least raise an eyebrow. I’m raising my eyebrow… and curious to see how this turns out in the next few weeks.
I'm a Christ-follower, compelled by my faith toward reason, which points directly toward conservatism. This world's daily onslaught of lunacy offends my intellect and senses, so this is my venue to blow off steam.
War-Axe for President! on a serious note, the government is bounding over thier steps, as Stan Laurel puts it. What’s new about that? Unfortunately, nothing. What’s new about the lack of moral integrity in America and the world in general? Unfortunately, nothing. We really need to work on improving our kids moral lives, improving them with an incredible moral armor to protect them from the pressures of modern (modern meaning slutty) life. Again, we are unfortunately outnumbered, and we have a long way to go. People often ask me, “What is the world coming to?” I just say, “The end.” It’s got to be coming one day or another, though not necessarilly soon.
In a media blitz, the mothers of the children in this case are all over the news.
Putting aside any other comment or query, I have this question:
Where are the fathers of these children? We haven’t seen any. We haven’t heard from any.
And the media isn’t even mentioning them.
@ John3Sobieski :: I’ll have to remember that one because I like it – “What’s this world coming to?” – “The end.” Once you’ve programmed grade school kids with your “progressive” agenda you almost have to wait for that generation to die for anything to improve. With the WW2 folks dying and the hippies in the more powerful positions it’s not looking good for a while.
@ Tony Iovino :: Good question. Perhaps the police have them all rounded up for questioning. Perhaps their lawyers have told them not to talk… and the mothers are only talking trying to get their stolen kids back from the People’s Republic of Texas.
The courtroom down there is a catastrophe right now. The parents and kids all have different lawyers!?
Woh! Its called brainwash and absence of choice. These girls are being abused before they understand what abuse is. having babies before the choose to have babies. It’s wrong in the inner cities and it’s wrong in cult groups. It’s not one versus the other.
These girls are being forced and manipulated by their own parents into thinking that defying what the elder men say will make them burn in hell. It’s slavery. The men aren’t raising them, the mothers are. They are breeding other victims of rape by old controlling men.
coment 5, ur right BUT its stil a wast of govorment funding.
Columbiaredhot, I’d have to say you’re right, for the most part. There’s only one thing I find wrong with your statement. Yes, the younger ones born into the cult are indeed being forced to do these things. You can’t choose family, after all, and the children would do whatever thier parents say, and thier parents say that they have to be a member of the cult. But what about the older ones, and not necessarily the “old controlling men.” When the cult was founded, it probably took in voluntary members, as would any organization. They wouldn’t have been forced. Unless the circumstances of thier joining was coercive, or outright kidnapping.
@ Columbiaredhot :: I don’t disagree with you in general… but my beef is mostly that the biggest difference between this Mormon sect and the state of Texas is the age of consent. And underage girls all over the States are willingly sleeping with older (sometimes much older) men… of course, then the men’s picture is on the news… but it’s not like that’s forceable rape. I don’t agree that girls at 14 can give consent… but I take exception at the demonization of these people while the same critics are mostly silent (and sometimes supportive) about underage teen pregnancy elsewhere.
@ John3Sobieski :: Good points. From the news interviews we can see that some people did indeed leave the ranch of their own free will… they weren’t stopped.
Also, if the concern is rape of these girls, then why take the sons away, too?
the whole thing with the polygamists and taking all those kids based on one girl without any real investigation is messed up. About your Muslim ranch comment, you are wrong, if it had been a Muslim ranch they would have said it’s an al quaida training camp and shipped everyone to Guantanamo.
The texans got what they wanted… i hate it when the texans win….
I see from your profile you are a libertarian. What disturbed me the most about this was that there were more democrats and libertarians up in arms about this whole raid then there were republicans. The only republican that were up in arms over this issue seemed to be us Ron Paul republican. You do wonder when America will wake up from is slumber.
Waking up from a slumber. Hmmm, sounds like that “sleeping giant” motiff from WWII. My brother Dave often says, “We need a good war” meaning that if there were an incredibly dangerous and overt threat such as war that was attacking the American way, then people would finally realize what they’re letting slip away by endorsing leftism. I tell ya, my brother is right in that respect, we need a war to turn this country around. May God grant that it’s not a shooting war. But with Russia being the way it is, the big shooting war possibility is becoming a much larger possibility.
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