You can stop reading now – but for anyone’s else’s benefit I’m actually very much AGAINST animal cruelty. In many respects I put people who abuse higher order animals (dogs, cats, etc.) in line with those who abuse women, the disabled, the elderly, and the young (and unborn).

Part of me loves the fact that this image of the GOP playing cards gives lefties the Heebie-jeebies.

i’m sure a lot of what we are trying to convey is beyond your understanding (you seem to be quite obtuse) but being belligerent about your ignorance doesn’t make you look ‘cool’ or ‘intelligent’. it makes you look like a moron.

-a.
“UNTIL EVERY CAGE IS EMPTY”

Yeah, that’s just the way things seem. Though I personally would give the media a little bit more leeway with Princess Diana and Mother Teresa. From what I’ve heard, Princess Di was genuinely concerned with other people’s plights and whatnot. To me, Michael Jackson was just a freak and deserves no more coverage than a little footnote. I will stick with your opinion on it though, I was too young to remember the deaths of Princess Di and St. Teresa.

If everyone of us Christians would just have that much devotion, everybody would see the sense of purpose that we feel in our lives. In wanting it for themselves, the pagans and neo-pagans would join in, and we would have churches overflowing. Unfortunately, people like me fail on such a regular basis.

I want to write more, but I have to go out of town for a bit. I’ll finish this post when I get back.

I would rather not have any government.

But SOME people cant control themselves. unfortunately anarchy wont work.

@simple

Personally i think the female body should be allowed to take its course. Doctors should intervene when stuff goes down.

Not being a doctor i couldnt begin to draw a line between safe and unsafe.

the ultimate decision should not be left to one person

please dont call me a pro-lifer. I’m not quite sure what i am and dont necessarily need to be labeled anything

@Casey

A. Dont let an exception become a rule

B. Norway has a long list of contributing factors that allow it to have such a great economy. And it does have and awesome economy. A few of these factors would include its size, lack of diversity (compared with other countries), abundance of natural resources, being surrounded by economically prospering nations.

C. However i would not want to live there. I can honestly say that i do not want to be taken care of. The more ability you give an entity to take care of you the more control you have to give it. I’m bitter about what the government takes out of my meager paycheck now, i cant imagine what Norway takes from its citizens.

I guess its a little of the Alexander Supertramp, Thoreau, or pioneer coming out in me that wants to go at it alone without help (except maybe a companion)

Whatever statistic or fact you say about socialism, communism, collectivism, and to a far lesser extent capitalism you cannot deny the fact that it placates people.

When stuff goes down…..and it will….i will be able to fend for myself.

On the abortion question- Do you believe they are the same because of the belief in a soul? I can’t think of how else they could be the same.

As far as the socialist stuff,
Communism is a different subject than socialism.

The quote from the great Winston Churchill is all fine and dandy. All of your commentary about how socialism never worked, and won’t, is kind of confusing.

“Norway maintains a Scandinavian welfare model with universal healthcare, free higher education and a comprehensive social security system. Norway was ranked highest of all countries in human development from 2001 to 2006.[16] It was also rated the most peaceful country in the world in a 2007 survey by Global Peace Index.[17]”

Seems like it has been working for quite awhile. I never said anything about a totalitarian socialism, and never mentioned communism. Socialism isn’t a bad word, and as much as some people like to lump it in with Fascist dictators, they are just completely overlooking some things.

Scandinavian countries are social democracies, and have some of the highest per capita GDP’s in the world. Are they perfect? No, but they’re doing fine.

So, gotta say I disagree with your comments about “socialism”.

Hope we aren’t high jacking your post WarAxe. Also, I just mentioned that it’s alright to sound socialist, and this is the response I get? lol I wonder what would happen if I actually say something next time? =D

The female body has different hormones and chemicals that have the ability to abort a fetus that the body doesn’t feel comfortable with. If a doctor were to come up with a medicine to hinder that and force pregnancy would PRO-LIFERS insist on that?

Is it ok for the human body to naturally abort a fetus?
Where do you draw the line between safe and unsafe? Who gets the supreme power of the judgment call?

Winston Churchill

Yes….a baby being aborted 1 day from birth is the same as one being aborted 8 1/2 months from birth

Whether that abortion is “justified” “necesarry” or another term depends on the circumstances of the abortion.

If a girl was raped when she was young and became pregnant i think an abortion can be tolerated. For example

about your other comment. Socialism, communism, or anything of that nature doesnt, hasnt, and wont work. It is human nature to want and because all resources are scarce sharing everything is not going to work.

Thanks for the correction Simple. While I’m happy I know some about broad Muslim culture, obviously I don’t know it all.

@waraxe

Do you consider a baby being aborted 1 day from birth the same as one being aborted 8 1/2 months from birth? Just a question of curiosity.

PS
@simple
There’s nothing wrong with sounding socialist. =D